I’m glad you’re advocating for this. Substack is very much white and centered around US thoughts and opinions. African writers shouldn’t have to jump thru hurdles in order to be open to the same advances as everyone else!
I wish you well in tearing down this structural bias and being brave enough to let your voices be heard. From the new writers to those who’ve been on here for quite some time.
Thank you for sharing this! I hope that if enough of us say something, we’ll see a change. I also wanted to note that (very frustratingly), Stripe Connect pays out on buymeacoffee to African creators and I have received no answers as to why that can’t be an alternative for Substack. Thank god Patreon uses PayPal. It’s just ludicrous to exclude entire continents, not just Africa, from the entire USP of your platform.
This part - "How can Substack claim to champion independent creators while simultaneously barring entire regions from economic participation? How can we build a world where creativity and thought are valued equally, if we continue to exclude voices based on where they come from?" 👏🏼👏🏼
Thank you SO much for writing and sharing. I didn't even know this was happening. Truly unacceptable.
Thank you so much Gigi for noting something worthwhile that you got from engaging with my work. I am grateful that you took the time to comment and assert my sentiments. 🙏🏾
Hoping that if Substack doesn't do anything about it, people will at least know what's happening.
Ummm what the heck! They need to fix this immediately! The work you are doing deserves to be rewarded just like everyone else. I’m very disappointed in this.
I'm here to join you and the chorus of voices asking Substack to add other payment options to its list for the reasons you outlined. I also wrote about this problem as part of my GiveBackStack origin story article in August (https://rainmakerschangemakers.substack.com/p/substack-activisim-a-givebackstack). Over the summer, @Ubuntu International's Antoinette @Rootsdawtah and I encouraged all of the community development, permaculture, art, and educator activists we collaborate with in Africa to join Substack only to find they couldn't monetize their publications. They are here writing (many of them I wrote about on the RainMakers & ChangeMakers Substack). But even writing here is difficult when you need a laptop to use the Writer Dashboard (effectively) and enough data and wifi to do so. My short-term solution was to monetize both of my Substacks for the benefit of the people I'm trying to go to bat for. It's not easy going. My readership isn't the right target audience, but I'm giving it a go.
Thank you so much Emily for personally doing such great advocacy around this sytstematic issue. I have read the linked post and shared it. Thank you for sharing and sharing your own experiences.
Awesome! The question remains whether Substack is listening and doing anything. I have zero influence so hoping together with the numbers you've got for your post something will change!
It is just sad that this has been, is, and will be relevant for at least the next couple of years (hopefully not!). Thank you Katz for speaking urgency into this matter.
It made me think of that time when I looked into making a wire transfer from a Malagasy account to a French account and found out they haven't come up with a tool/platform for that yet. Which goes back to a similar message: France (read Europe) does the deals with Madagascar (read Africa), not the other way around.
Thank you so much Priscilla for this comment and showing how much broader this is.
It really is frustrating to see this dynamic play out everywhere, even in something as basic as a wire transfer. It’s always on their terms—Europe set the rules, and Africa is left adapting. It’s a stark reminder of how unequal the system is, not just online but in every way. So whether it’s content creation or financial transactions, we’re still operating in a world where we are secondary.
Ugh I hate how so many of these platform indeed are cantered in the west and push western voices. I suppose the same goes to Instagram, where loads of African creators often have to move countries to monetise their services. It’s such a shame. These platforms are not global..they can be globally accessed but they are just as segregated as society at large. I really hope they fix this. Because this is kind of ruining this place for me now. Knowing I benefit from an unjust system just by living “in the right region” of the world makes me sick. 💔
Matunda, I deeply resonate with your frustration. It’s so easy to use these platforms without ever considering how they exclude others, and the fact that you’re thinking critically about this shows a great sense of awareness.
But I want to say, it’s not about feeling guilty for where you happen to be in the world—after all, we don’t choose our circumstances. What can be powerful, though, is how we use that awareness: By continuing to engage in these conversations, by amplifying underrepresented voices, and by pushing for change, you’re already challenging the system from within. The more we make noise, the more we force these platforms to reckon with their role in perpetuating inequality.
You being here, supporting this dialogue, is certainly part of the solution. Let’s keep pushing for the world we want 🙏🏾
Yes, I know love. It’s the injustice that’s overwhelming. But you are so right. We can all challenge the system the small ways we do everyday. It’s so important to hear this issue for your prospective. Though I know that black and brown creators are excluded from the influencer business here in Europe, this something different entirely, though still in the same package of supremacy. Thanks for facilitating for this dialogue.
Thank you my darling for reading and further emphasising how far and wide it goes. I've seen a few users from second and third world countries lamenting over this when I was researching it.
It is so unfair. I hope something gives, it's been way too long. And I'm so sorry you're experiencing this too 🤎
Actually it's not just Africa and India...so many other countries are not included...just checked.
We would definitely need to raise a petition and create a movement together.
Also it'd be really cool if people from these countries understand these problems and create a platform that works for everyone. It exists countrywise now but not worldwide. Lemonsqueezy was one such payment gateway that I really liked. They have provisions of payment for all countries
Thanks for writing this and bringing it to the attention of other writers! Have you received any response from Substack? In addition to restacking your essay, I’d love to join your efforts to lobby for change. It seems absurd that Substack doesn’t partner with a different payment platform where needed!
I've gone down the same rabbit holes. Great that you're sharing this. The answers we get feels very much like, " jump through a million hoops you may find a way or not" "sorry to bad." It's not just Substack though. As writers we contribute to the fabric of everything. Certain demographics and cultures should not be excluded but looked too highly for the valuable contribution to a global, diverse world. Without those voices there is a huge void.
Thank you so much Lezel. And you’re absolutely correct in that analysis. The answers fall flat, if they even ever come.
So every single creator deserves to have their contributions valued and affirmed in a way that’s meaningful for them so that they can continue showing up.
In relation to this I am thinking about language use of the internet. How the internet represents a dichotomy of colonialistic tendencies that pervades society
Roberto, you’ve touched on a deeply significant layer here. The language of the internet does often mirror colonial patterns, with English dominating as the global ‘default.’ This can subtly reinforce a hierarchy where certain voices and cultures are privileged, while others are sidelined—not just in terms of economic participation, but in how ideas are even allowed to circulate.
So, it’s not just about who can profit, but who can be understood and whose experiences get to shape the narrative.
Wow, thank you for bringing in this perspective too.
Soo sad! I can't believe that we have been blatantly ignored because you guys have raised it many years ago with its inception.
And a big thank you to you too David for writing on this and setting such an important foundation for me to explore this further. I appreciate you taking the time with my essay 🌻
This is obviously unjust and I have restacked this post! Definitely keep writing either way. In the future you could easily create an e-book as a compilation of some of your essays and offer to sell it to your subscribers with bonuses etc. There are many ways … Whatever happens, you must keep writing as you add so much value here.
I totally agree with your sentiments and comments - so powerfully expressed. Voices of authors from the African and Asian continents need to have more of an impact on the global platforms - as their world and life experiences are often totally ignored by the "powers to be" . Global surely should mean global ! Unfortunately , often the financial/banking policies of the developing countries limit the interaction with international platforms for its citizens and effectively cutting them off from the benefits they deliver.
I’m glad you’re advocating for this. Substack is very much white and centered around US thoughts and opinions. African writers shouldn’t have to jump thru hurdles in order to be open to the same advances as everyone else!
I wish you well in tearing down this structural bias and being brave enough to let your voices be heard. From the new writers to those who’ve been on here for quite some time.
You see me, you see us Lynelle. Exactly! So thank you 🤎
And I see you're doing great work to also bridge that gap and advance voices of the black diaspora. Love it 😊
Thank you for sharing this! I hope that if enough of us say something, we’ll see a change. I also wanted to note that (very frustratingly), Stripe Connect pays out on buymeacoffee to African creators and I have received no answers as to why that can’t be an alternative for Substack. Thank god Patreon uses PayPal. It’s just ludicrous to exclude entire continents, not just Africa, from the entire USP of your platform.
Thank you so much to you too for bravely speaking on this. It’s a table that needs to be shaken, if not completely made to come apart.
And that’s what has baffled me, we can get payouts on BuyMeACoffee but oddly can’t use it for subscriptions.
Let’s hope Substack starts taking this seriously and creating something widely accessible
This part - "How can Substack claim to champion independent creators while simultaneously barring entire regions from economic participation? How can we build a world where creativity and thought are valued equally, if we continue to exclude voices based on where they come from?" 👏🏼👏🏼
Thank you SO much for writing and sharing. I didn't even know this was happening. Truly unacceptable.
Thank you so much Gigi for noting something worthwhile that you got from engaging with my work. I am grateful that you took the time to comment and assert my sentiments. 🙏🏾
Hoping that if Substack doesn't do anything about it, people will at least know what's happening.
I am hoping Substack will do something about it! As naïve as it may be, I constantly hold out hope.
But yes, in the meantime, at least people are now educated on the matter at hand.
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Ummm what the heck! They need to fix this immediately! The work you are doing deserves to be rewarded just like everyone else. I’m very disappointed in this.
Thank you so much Leah for sharing in our frustration and disappointment. And also taking time to comment.
I hope something gives 🙏🏾
Me too! Keep us all updated and let us know what we can do as well.
I'm here to join you and the chorus of voices asking Substack to add other payment options to its list for the reasons you outlined. I also wrote about this problem as part of my GiveBackStack origin story article in August (https://rainmakerschangemakers.substack.com/p/substack-activisim-a-givebackstack). Over the summer, @Ubuntu International's Antoinette @Rootsdawtah and I encouraged all of the community development, permaculture, art, and educator activists we collaborate with in Africa to join Substack only to find they couldn't monetize their publications. They are here writing (many of them I wrote about on the RainMakers & ChangeMakers Substack). But even writing here is difficult when you need a laptop to use the Writer Dashboard (effectively) and enough data and wifi to do so. My short-term solution was to monetize both of my Substacks for the benefit of the people I'm trying to go to bat for. It's not easy going. My readership isn't the right target audience, but I'm giving it a go.
Thank you so much Emily for personally doing such great advocacy around this sytstematic issue. I have read the linked post and shared it. Thank you for sharing and sharing your own experiences.
Awesome! The question remains whether Substack is listening and doing anything. I have zero influence so hoping together with the numbers you've got for your post something will change!
It is just sad that this has been, is, and will be relevant for at least the next couple of years (hopefully not!). Thank you Katz for speaking urgency into this matter.
It made me think of that time when I looked into making a wire transfer from a Malagasy account to a French account and found out they haven't come up with a tool/platform for that yet. Which goes back to a similar message: France (read Europe) does the deals with Madagascar (read Africa), not the other way around.
Thank you so much Priscilla for this comment and showing how much broader this is.
It really is frustrating to see this dynamic play out everywhere, even in something as basic as a wire transfer. It’s always on their terms—Europe set the rules, and Africa is left adapting. It’s a stark reminder of how unequal the system is, not just online but in every way. So whether it’s content creation or financial transactions, we’re still operating in a world where we are secondary.
Ugh I hate how so many of these platform indeed are cantered in the west and push western voices. I suppose the same goes to Instagram, where loads of African creators often have to move countries to monetise their services. It’s such a shame. These platforms are not global..they can be globally accessed but they are just as segregated as society at large. I really hope they fix this. Because this is kind of ruining this place for me now. Knowing I benefit from an unjust system just by living “in the right region” of the world makes me sick. 💔
Matunda, I deeply resonate with your frustration. It’s so easy to use these platforms without ever considering how they exclude others, and the fact that you’re thinking critically about this shows a great sense of awareness.
But I want to say, it’s not about feeling guilty for where you happen to be in the world—after all, we don’t choose our circumstances. What can be powerful, though, is how we use that awareness: By continuing to engage in these conversations, by amplifying underrepresented voices, and by pushing for change, you’re already challenging the system from within. The more we make noise, the more we force these platforms to reckon with their role in perpetuating inequality.
You being here, supporting this dialogue, is certainly part of the solution. Let’s keep pushing for the world we want 🙏🏾
Yes, I know love. It’s the injustice that’s overwhelming. But you are so right. We can all challenge the system the small ways we do everyday. It’s so important to hear this issue for your prospective. Though I know that black and brown creators are excluded from the influencer business here in Europe, this something different entirely, though still in the same package of supremacy. Thanks for facilitating for this dialogue.
I feel your discomfort.
Thank you so much for talking about this! It isn't only africa! It's also India because stripe doesn't work here and hasn't worked for years.
I faced this exact same problem with Medium and all platforms which use Stripe!
It's such a massive pain in the ass and so frustrating too! Also, so many more countries (especially "second/third world" ones) aren't allowed
Thank you my darling for reading and further emphasising how far and wide it goes. I've seen a few users from second and third world countries lamenting over this when I was researching it.
It is so unfair. I hope something gives, it's been way too long. And I'm so sorry you're experiencing this too 🤎
Thank you for pointing out that Medium are also exclusionary. I did not know.
I guess the question becomes --> how do you monetise if you are from Africa and from India?
Actually it's not just Africa and India...so many other countries are not included...just checked.
We would definitely need to raise a petition and create a movement together.
Also it'd be really cool if people from these countries understand these problems and create a platform that works for everyone. It exists countrywise now but not worldwide. Lemonsqueezy was one such payment gateway that I really liked. They have provisions of payment for all countries
Wow Katz you've really poured yourself on this one! Thank you so much for being brave and using your gift and platform to address this matter.
Thank you so much my good sis for seeing that and engaging with this 🤎
We are equally deserving to earn from this platform, should that be our goal. Truly hoping we will be finally heard.
Thanks for writing this and bringing it to the attention of other writers! Have you received any response from Substack? In addition to restacking your essay, I’d love to join your efforts to lobby for change. It seems absurd that Substack doesn’t partner with a different payment platform where needed!
Annie thank you so much for this and your eagerness to stand besides us in this fight.
I also appreciate you taking time to read and engage with this message so wholeheartedly 🙏🏾
And sadly Substack hasn’t said a thing
I've gone down the same rabbit holes. Great that you're sharing this. The answers we get feels very much like, " jump through a million hoops you may find a way or not" "sorry to bad." It's not just Substack though. As writers we contribute to the fabric of everything. Certain demographics and cultures should not be excluded but looked too highly for the valuable contribution to a global, diverse world. Without those voices there is a huge void.
Thank you so much Lezel. And you’re absolutely correct in that analysis. The answers fall flat, if they even ever come.
So every single creator deserves to have their contributions valued and affirmed in a way that’s meaningful for them so that they can continue showing up.
In relation to this I am thinking about language use of the internet. How the internet represents a dichotomy of colonialistic tendencies that pervades society
Roberto, you’ve touched on a deeply significant layer here. The language of the internet does often mirror colonial patterns, with English dominating as the global ‘default.’ This can subtly reinforce a hierarchy where certain voices and cultures are privileged, while others are sidelined—not just in terms of economic participation, but in how ideas are even allowed to circulate.
So, it’s not just about who can profit, but who can be understood and whose experiences get to shape the narrative.
Wow, thank you for bringing in this perspective too.
Thanks for writing this Katz. I had no idea!
While I’m not ready to monetise, it’s OFFENSIVE to find that I am limited from those resources simply because I’m in Africa.
We will keep amplifying the message. Or should we go and build our own? 🤔
Same here! I also wasn't ready to monetise until I played around with it and realised that nooo man, I cannot access this facility.
They do not see us and it's upsetting.
It would definitely be a strong impetus to leave the platform and create our own or find one that addresses the issues we are experiencing here.
This is so incredibly nuanced and important. It is and that years later, we as African creators still have to deal with this.
Soo sad! I can't believe that we have been blatantly ignored because you guys have raised it many years ago with its inception.
And a big thank you to you too David for writing on this and setting such an important foundation for me to explore this further. I appreciate you taking the time with my essay 🌻
This is obviously unjust and I have restacked this post! Definitely keep writing either way. In the future you could easily create an e-book as a compilation of some of your essays and offer to sell it to your subscribers with bonuses etc. There are many ways … Whatever happens, you must keep writing as you add so much value here.
Oh Michelle! 🥹🤎
You have no idea how much I appreciate your support and encouragement. Always delightful to see your comments. Always so kind and heartfelt.
Thank you for propagating this important message 🙏🏾
I totally agree with your sentiments and comments - so powerfully expressed. Voices of authors from the African and Asian continents need to have more of an impact on the global platforms - as their world and life experiences are often totally ignored by the "powers to be" . Global surely should mean global ! Unfortunately , often the financial/banking policies of the developing countries limit the interaction with international platforms for its citizens and effectively cutting them off from the benefits they deliver.